If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Before emergency assistance arrived, the brothers wiped blood from his face and attempted to dress him, but his body was too rigid to successfully put clothes on.
Tim was in no way responsible for or a part of this behavior.
Not calling 911 immediately is not Piazza fault. He's black out drunk and stumbling around, and he's just left alone? Let's look at the Wikipedia article about the incident.
An example should be made of that chapter, so I would say his parents are more like the dicks that are trying to fuck the assholes that just want to shit all over everything, IMO. A place to post an opinion you accept may be flawed, in an effort to understand other perspectives on the issue.
What is he responsible for? He had ruptured spleen and was bleeding internally to the point that he was in class IV hemorrhagic shock (the worst level of shock caused by blood loss) by the time he made it to the hospital. Plus I have been open to other view points when they have been raised. I mean, based on your logic that would be completely selfish and out of line of you. The surgeons attempting to save his life deemed the injuries to likely be nonrecoverable, and Piazza was pronounced dead in the early morning of February 4, 2017. I think they're acting like distraught parents struggling to cope with the death of their son even if it means distorting reality a bit and choosing to see his son in the best of lights and his frat brothers in the worst.
Cold and hyperventilating. Getting knock out drunk? What they did was worse than just leaving him to die.
Press J to jump to the feed. When you get somebody into an environment where they have seemingly no way out, where every authority figure is encouraging or forcing you to drink and nobody would help you, say, leave and go home safely, it is extremely difficult to turn down drinks.
At about 10 a.m., fraternity members found the 19-year-old back in the basement lying on his back, breathing heavily and with blood on his face, the grand jury report said. But the hazing was not the unconscionable part of what happened, and it wasn't what led to his death. Any one of these members could have called for help. I just don't like the way this kids parents have acted at all.
They used this power not to keep him safe but to encourage him to drink to the point where even if he hadn't injured himself he would have almost certainly been hospitalized or died of alcohol poisoning. Any one of these people could have stayed with him kept him from doing further damage to himself.
Tim Piazza may have been somewhat complicit in the hazing. Piazza consumed what prosecutors said was a life-threatening amount of alcohol during a hazing ritual at the house in State College. I can concede they are stupid. In this attempt he managed to hit himself in the head several more times and knock himself out again. Members of the fraternity carried Piazza up the steps and put him on the couch.
Timothy Piazza Family photo On Thursday, State College Police Detective David Scicchitano testified that someone deleted basement video footage from the night in question two days after Piazza died. The video included him stumbling through the house before he was found, hours later, in the basement.
On the night of Feb. 2, 2017, Piazza, a 19-year-old sophomore, participated in an alcohol-fueled hazing ritual at the frat house. This may actually explain why we disagree so much... Edit 2: do you have a personal connect to this? Again normal people would have called for medical assistance seeing as he is still unresponsive or at least have a person watch over him but they left him. Second of all, yes, victims of horrible crimes often did something stupid or unwise, which is why they were preyed upon instead of someone else who was more cautious and more difficult prey. As no one was left around him this all went unnoticed and he was left on the floor. I don't think it serves anyone to blame the other fraternity members and act like Timothy piazza had no involvement. I can honestly say that would not be how my mind would work.
Tim was accountable to himself for over drinking, but the rest of the frat was accountable for essentially leaving him to rot and die, despite obvious symptoms of trauma and injury, and likely alcohol poisoning.
The frat decided to pick him up, move him to a new location, talk about it for forty minutes, agree to call for help but not inform them when the incident occurred and tried to clean him of blood and change his clothes. Tim Piazza may have been somewhat complicit in the hazing. His brothers. Penn State student Timothy Piazza "looked like a corpse" by the time fraternity brothers came to his aid, a detective says. I agree with both of those things. (BELLEFONTE, Pa.) — Prosecutors on Monday played videotape from inside a Penn State fraternity that showed a pledge suffering through an agonizing night from untreated injuries sustained in a fall during an alcohol-fueled event as his friends failed to call for help. Turn on desktop notifications for breaking stories about interest? I don't even know where you get the whole idea I am making personal digs at people, or how you can think anything i said could only be thought by a frat bro, or whatever. 18 and up is an adult. The reason why hazing works, and why hazing charges exist, is because peer pressure is an extremely powerful motivator.
Piazza was brought to Mount Nittany Medical Center, but was quickly transported to Penn State Milton S. Hershey Medical Center because of the severity of his injuries. When one pledge tried to intervene, insisting they get Piazza some help, he was shoved into a wall and told the brothers had it under control, the grand jury report says.
By the time help was called the next day, a police official said, Piazza had the look of a “corpse.” Piazza died days later. No other parents have acted like this when they have lost their child in similar fashion.
There's nothing really new other than the basement video. What led to his death was the negligent behavior of the fraternity members after Tim was first injured. You know what, if somebody falls down a flight of stairs because they're blackout drunk, you should probably make sure that nothing bad happens to him.
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